Goto Thread: PreviousNext
Goto: Message ListNew TopicSearchLog In
Goto Page: Previous123Next
Current Page: 2 of 3
Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: wivey (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 19:02

Sorry Doone and chester quay, I have to disagree. To say there was no improvement at all, defies logic. You don't have to go to the game to know that a 0-1 away defeat is a vast improvement over a 0-5 home defeat and the fact that you say we could have won the game, is entirely down to the players who played on the day.

Gary Pinch would play with a broken leg for Nomads if Jim would let him, thats one of the reasons why he is Club Captain. Jim has key player nursing an injury and he was wise to rest him and make sure he is fit in the vital game against Caernarfon on Saturday. Jim knows what White, Herbie, Macca and Melia can do, they have played in our last 7 defeats when we have conceded 32 goals. He needed to see how the new players could perform in a game nobody thought was winable, without the wisdom of hindsite. The result was far better than expected and Jim has a much clearer picture of which players to play in the vital Caernarfon game. I haven't spoken to Jim since the Boxing Day game, but his strategy is pretty obvious to me and I think he's got it spot on.

Just a final word on the people who constantly say we should be signing proven seasoned Welsh Premier league campaigners. Find the money, find the player, then persuade them to move from their existing club to join Nomads in our current predicament. If you can find one and provide the money, I garantee you that Jim would happily sign him. I know the Welsh Premier as well as any of you, Get real !



Post Edited (02-01-08 19:04)

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: chester quay (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 19:54

Wivey come on. Surely we cant all be wrong. Heres a few examples Stu White has played nearly every position on the pitch and i dont think he has played more than 2 games in arow in his position of striker. then theres Herbie played his only full game at centre back against llangefni and conceeded 0 and we won 2.0, since then hasnt played a full game in the same position. herbie has only started 3 of the last seven games conceeding 9, macca has played 5 of the last 7 games conceeding 26, white has played 4 of the last 7 games conceeding 18, and melia doesnt count no more. So its not these lads fault that the goals are flying in. A team needs to get continuity about it, but jim and andy insist on switching and swapping players around during the games and then for the next game, so the lads cant get used to playing together or in the position jim and andy put them in. And never in my life have i seen a manager put 6 new players who probably havent even had a training session together straight in to a starting 11. Its just something Jim will have to learn off. Sorry but isnt it jims job to attract these players from other clubs, not me, please stop me if im wrong but that is why he got the job of managing the quay, because he might be able to attract these players. There is players out there but our management dont know the league well enough. And as its been said many a time lately it doesnt matter weather you get beat 5.0 or 1.0 its a defeat and you get 0 points for either so its that simple. Even there fans were laughing at the lad in the middle, they were saying i hope your not paying this lad to play football, because he quite simply wasnt good enough. For me and many others you can see we have only improved by making the squad bigger.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: willam (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 20:27


Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: nomader (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 20:44

Chester Nomad you should get out more . Very impressed with your stats though, Wivey i know you have to back jim up on this site but the posts are almost all right, you get nothing for a defeat no matter what score. I really hope we get proven wrong but i like to think i know my football and my players and the new signings arent good enough for moving us up the league. Its another big game on saturday we need this victory in a big way. I have to agree that the team does get messed about far too much for my liking. And as for putting a team out in a game that we thought we wouldnt win!!! what sort of attitude is that to have, we should be going out confidant of winning every game, otherwise we are asking for a hammering.:-!

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: DOONE (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 21:19

Nomader.....i agree, you allways go out to WIN, weather next game a must win or not, there,s allways that chance you win......Wivey ..you said Gay Pinch would play with a broken leg, so theres plenty of passion in him ,.so why not play him......dont rest him......if he,s going to get hurt or injury plays up......well thats football... he knows that.....he had,nt played for a few weeks ......but Jim played him boxing day, against Rhyl.....so is,nt that the same sort of game as yesterday? Sorry to say if hes good enough to play for the NOMADS well play him........

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: wivey (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 21:30

Chester Quay. Do I really have to start from the beggining. How long have you supported Nomads for? No Managers with WPL experience were interested in the Managers post last summer. None of the previous seasons players were willing to sign on, with 1 exception. With 8 weeks to go before the transfer window closed, we had no players and no Manager. Oh I give up! If you couldn't be bothered to read it all on site then or have conveniently forgotton the sequence of events, I am not going to waste my time going over it. It's still all on site, check the archives. Name a single WPL player that we could and should have signed then or now, or Manager for that matter. Just one!



Post Edited (02-01-08 21:31)

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: chester quay (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 21:58

Wivey ive supported nomads for long enough to know that there is lads that would jump at the chance of coming here, just look at how many chester lads are in the league and many of them travel all over the place, surely with the right offer they would come to us. It is definatly a case of not knowing the players. The manager doesnt have to nessaseraly have to be from this league as long as he knows what its about and has players to bring in, Jim clearly never had good enough players to come with him. Wayne Morgan, Caddy and paul pritchard isnt that all jim brought with him the rest come through andy lee from congleton and trialists. Iknow you expect to have players to come in to if you take over a club (bungle and pinch) but they never stayed and that is that. It doesnt matter what i say the truth is we need players in from somewhere and there is no hiding it.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: joey robo (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 22:27

CN thats right there is players that would come, its for jim to find them, its the managers job to get the players in wivey, not the suporters, thats what he is paid for. I agree with cn i dont think jim knows any players good enough to bring to us. Never mind the lads will battle on.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: Players (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2008 23:33

Im taking it upon my self to speak out on behalf of the players. All the players understand that it is a difficult situation we find our selves in at this current stage of the season. There have been many individual reviews of each player by various fans though out the season and this has continued with the new players even after only one game. But the players understand your frustration. But we make it very clear we have no intentions whats so ever of letting this club be relegated and we gurantee that come the game at home to Llanelli we will be safe from relegation and then look to press on to next season. The players belive we can do it and im sure with a bit more faith from the fans we will do it.

Happy new Year from the players.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: Belle Vue Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 12:01


Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: Tin Tin (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 12:10

I for one would like to know the name of at least one of the players that are waiting for the opportunity to come on board.

Because of Jim's previous position within Chester City, I would have thought if anyone is aware of any players wanting to sign, it would be him!

This season is one of survival/tactics with the sole intention of collecting 30 points and stay in this league..........that's it...........THAT IS IT !

No other club in this league has had to cope with a mass exodus at the start of their season and to expect anything out of the ordinary from a make-shift team in their first season is just wishfull thinking.

I will give the new signings time to gel before making any rash comments, but certainly think that a 1-0 loss away from home against a team that beat us 5-0 at home, has to be an improvement.........doesn't the score reflect that?

Right now, I'm of the opinion that we should only be putting our strongest team out for the games we expect to win and experiment with those games we don't.............at least then we can be learning and it' won't be a complete loss.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: WHITE KNIGHT (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 12:51

there is probably loads of players out there but =
are they good enough( big step up from west Cheshire , Sunday league )
can we afford them
and last but not least would the want to come hear after reading some of the posts people put on hear

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: owain g (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 13:25

if there are lots of players out there who would jump at the chance to come to nomads,great news,i do agree it is jim's job to find them,but why not give him a hand and let him know who they are,we've had this post before about players who would give their right legs to play for nomads,i'm sure jim and the team would not be too proud to take any clues or pointers about them,tell us who they are!.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: joey robo (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 14:00

White knight, i think you should look around the league just to see how many ex west cheshire players there are in it before you coment on it being a poor standard, it is far from that, the west cheshire league is a very strong and competative league, and is not too far behind the top half of this league, ive been and seen for myself and have many friends who are associated with the league. The only differance is there is no sponsorship deals so only a handfull of teams get paid, and this league is a bit more tactical and more direct. West cheshire league plays a lot more football on the floor, and is very physical. I would honestly say we would struggle to come mid table in that league at the moment. There is a lot of players there at the moment not getting paid that are easily good enough for this league.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: owain g (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 14:08

come on people,stop going round the houses and name the players.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: wivey (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 14:52

joey robo, the West Cheshire league at tier 11, is a feeder league to the NW Counties League which in turn is a feeder league to the Unibond League. The Unibond Premier being at tier 7, where Rhyl And Bangor played most of their football before being forced into the Welsh Premier. Rhyl And Bangor's average crowds continue to be over double the average of most Unibond premier teams. Some people have criticised our signings of the better Congleton players, saying they are not good enough. Congleton are two tiers higher than the best West Cheshire teams. Your comparison of the West Cheshire league as equal to the Welsh Premier is a joke and there is not one team in that league that could survive in the Welsh Premier.

TNS lost 3-0 twice against a full strength Liverpool team in the Euro Champions cup two seasons ago, with Gerrard scoring 5 of their 6 goals. How do you think Christleton would do?



Post Edited (03-01-08 15:15)

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: Michael22 (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 15:53

I have been following your message board since the start of this season. I am a Congleton Town supporter & found it unusual when our club parted with Andy Lee in favour of a more local manager's. On the eve of our first friendly match, 8 of our player's who had signed for us & trained with us, decided to rejoin Andy at CCN.

Our new manager had to rebuild much like yourselves. The lads that left were all well respected here at Congleton & got us our first piece of silverware for 30years. These lads know each other & are hard workers. No player goes out with the aim to lose. You must support these lads to get the best out of them & I know Andy Lee knows how to get the best out of them.

Our own situation is much more rosy than yours. A very slow start to the season but with an increase in pace, where we are now 4th, 5 points behind the leaders, in a cup final & unbeaten at home in the last 6 home league matches.

Kept your support going and I'm sure you will turn the corner. You must be positive otherwise the lads will pick up on this.

Wishing you all the best for the rest of your season.


Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: wivey (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 16:10

Hi Michael. I am not sure that we took as many as 8 from you. I also keep an eye on your results too and I am pleased to see you doing so well lately. When a Managers leaves a team and takes a lot of players with him, it's not nice to see that team struggle as a result. The Congleton lads have done well for us, though they would be the first to admit that the step up in the standard of the league provides a real challenge for them.

Welcome to the board and thanks for your support and encouragement



Post Edited (03-01-08 16:12)

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: Michael22 (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2008 16:56

Off top of my head, I can name 7, Forrester, Petrie, Alston, Baker, Glover, McAllister & Jones. I know all these lads have not been regulars but they are good lads.

Onwards & upwards.

Re: nomads v rhyl
Posted by: God's own Country (IP Logged)
Date: 04 January, 2008 11:10

.......Eeee, it's glorious this, constant whining, like being at t' side on an airport runway.....................

Statos: "A loss is a loss, doesn't matter whether it's 1-0 or 8-0"

........Surely it does!!!?

Goto Page: Previous123Next
Current Page: 2 of 3
Goto Thread: PreviousNext
Goto: Message ListLog In
Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
We record all IP addresses on the Sportnetwork message boards which may be required by the authorities in case of defamatory or abusive comment. We seek to monitor the Message Boards at regular intervals. We do not associate Sportnetwork with any of the comments and do not take responsibility for any statements or opinions expressed on the Message Boards. If you have any cause for concern over any material posted here please let us know as soon as possible by e-mailing abuse@sportnetwork.net